Monday, January 31, 2011

Episode 28: Testify

Episode 28 of the Theopologetics Podcast is now available! Jim Wallace from Please Convince Me joins me to discuss the gospels as reliable eyewitness testimony to the person and work of Jesus Christ.

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  1. tbolson76February 8, 2011 at 7:45 PM

    It is always fascinating how evangelicals use early Christian writings to defend the validity of the Bible, yet totally disregard them when it comes to interpreting the Bible.

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  2. ChrisFebruary 8, 2011 at 9:31 PM

    It's really very simple. Early Christian writings citing the original eyewitnesses demonstrates that they were early and accepted, but doesn't suggest that they understood them fully and properly.

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  3. Fred ButlerFebruary 22, 2011 at 5:46 AM

    Reformed wonder boy, Jamin Hubner, provides his analysis of your interview:

    http://www.realapologetics.org/podcasts/?p=396

    In case you hadn't heard it.

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  4. ChrisFebruary 22, 2011 at 8:06 AM

    Hi, Fred. Yeah I listened, and was thankful that Jamin went easy on me. Generally I agree with him. By the way, I know that you and Jamin have a history, and I haven't followed it enough to chime in. However, is your conscience not pricked even in the slightest when you use the kind of sarcastic, mocking language you used above to speak about another brother in Christ?

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  5. Fred ButlerFebruary 22, 2011 at 9:01 AM

    However, is your conscience not pricked even in the slightest when you use the kind of sarcastic, mocking language you used above to speak about another brother in Christ?

    In this particular instance, no.

    Jamin has a history with a lot of fellows, not just me. Individuals who have attempted to offer thoughtful criticisms to the subject matter and arguments he has presented on his blog and cross posts over to AOMin. It is more than just having disagreeing opinion. A few guys tried to point out factual errors he presented in his articles.

    He repudiates such criticisms and dismisses those individuals as if they are hackish trolls just wanting to attack him. I want to appreciate what the guy is trying to do but he has a lot of personal maturing to work through before he can appoint himself as the Reformed Baptist Standard Bearer who thinks he has it all figured out.

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  6. ChrisFebruary 22, 2011 at 9:16 AM

    Even if all of that is accurate, am I to understand you as saying that it justifies describing a brother using sarcastic, mocking language?

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  7. Fred ButlerFebruary 22, 2011 at 11:48 AM

    In short, yes.
    But in our heightened age of PC sensibilities, I can understand how folks are trouble by my use of the phrase "wonder boy."

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  8. ChrisFebruary 22, 2011 at 12:02 PM

    And on top of sarcastically mocking a brother in Christ, you then imply that my discomfort with that language arises from political correctness, rather than a desire to see Christians love each other. I hope you'll reconsider your approach.

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  9. Fred ButlerFebruary 23, 2011 at 5:31 AM

    you then imply that my discomfort with that language arises from political correctness, rather than a desire to see Christians love each other.

    In a manner of speaking, yes. Your sensibilities about being nice to one another without exception is a product of our current western zeitgeist. It's the sort of stuff I have read from the emergent folks, and the restless, young Reformers, who get their feelings hurt when someone comes along and makes a pointed comment about their style of doing things.

    Snarkiness has it place. Particularly after the preferred method of humility and kindness has been spit back in one's face.

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  10. ChrisFebruary 23, 2011 at 5:56 AM

    Besides the several assumptions you've made about my position on the matter, I'd be interested to see your biblical support for "snarkiness" in response to repeated mistreatment, assuming your characterization of Jamin's behavior is accurate.

    One day perhaps I'll stop being surprised by the behavior of MacArthurites.

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  11. AaronJuly 31, 2011 at 12:08 PM

    Chris, would you define a "MacArthurite"?, As I have never before heard the term.

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  12. ChrisJuly 31, 2011 at 1:58 PM

    A follower of John MacArthur. That's all. I and others have for some time recognized how prideful and unmerciful MacArthurites tend to be.

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